January 24, 2013 at 10:13am
Title X funds can not, by law, be used to fund abortions.
The re-introduction of H.R. 217 will find the same fate as Pence’s did in 2011.
Why do the House Republicans spend their time on legislation that isn’t going to go anywhere? The 112th Congress introduced dozens of bills to repeal ACA, knowing full well that nothing was going to happen. The nation needs to look for solutions to our real problems debt, unemployment, immigration reform, economy, gun control and full access to healthcare for all, just for starters.
Painting Planned Parenthood as an evil entity is foolish. They offer assistance to around 3,000,000 Americans each year where 97% seek services for cancer screening, contraceptives, annual exams and other healthcare issues.
Women overwhelmingly support Roe V Wade and continue to do so on its 40th Anniversary..
The Republican Party, driven in part by the extremism of the Tea Party, now find themselves on the periphery of the mainstream beliefs that prevail across America.
We are changing. The vendettas of the past by some Republicans against gays, immigrants, women’s rights, minority groups can no longer be the driving force igniting the Republican Party, if they are going to retain the House. They have begun to recognize that, but far too late for 2012. Look for a more moderate, move to the middle, positions by 2014.
I don’t think a woman approaches the issue of abortion lightly. This is a decision that should be left to the woman, their healthcare provider and God.
January 25, 2013 at 6:42am
The reason things like this should be challenged is simple. Because it is the right thing to do biblically, morally and financially.
Apathy is the most dangerous idea we face in America.
Using the theory that we shouldn't introduce legislation that is "going nowhere" would have been devastating to the slavery movement, the civil rights movement, women’s right to vote, etc. etc. All of those things took years to enact and at some point were "going nowhere" as well.
Giving up is not an option and acceptance to something that is wrong should never be an option either.
Should a child who has a parent who is incapable of taking care of theirselves and requires around the clock care be allowed to euthanize the parent because they don't want to take care of them or can't afford the care?
The answer to that is absolutely not and it should be to abortion as well because it is the exact same thing except the "baby" at that point happens to be a lot older.
The hypocrisy of thinking an unborn child has no rights is extremely illogical.
Would I agree to a more moderate approach. Yes. Make all abortions illegal with the exception of those pregnancies due to incest, rape or would harm the mother.
At least that would be a compromise that would save the lives of millions of children each year. It is not perfect to what the right or the left would want, but it would be a start.
I would also suggest HR 217 to stop the funding as well.
The decision of an abortion is not one that is left solely to the woman, the healthcare provider and God when taxpayer money is being used to perfrom them. It then becomes EVERYONE who pays taxes business then!
January 25, 2013 at 7:44am
If you believe that is morally wrong, biblically wrong for a woman to have an abortion and then try to make a distinction between an abortion for rape, incest, mother’s health and abortions for other reasons, then you have destroyed your rationale that it is morally wrong, biblically wrong, in the first place.
Believing life begins at conception and then allowing that innocent life to be extinguished for no fault of its own seems to be a strange set of moral values.
Smacks of hypocrisy of the highest order.
The Hyde Amendment (passed 1976) prevents tax dollars from being spent on abortions. Planned Parenthood receives no tax dollars for any abortion services.
The 112th Congress spent 50 million dollars running through 33 bills to repeal ACA. Why? Just so every right wing advocate could go on record back home that he/she opposed ACA, Is this what they were elected to do? Why not address real issues that face the nation?
There are more than a few out there.
January 25, 2013 at 8:51am
Note-The Hyde Amendment allows coverage for rape, incest and mother's health.
January 25, 2013 at 1:21pm
I was not trying to suggest that I thought that abortion was morally right for rape, incest or harm to the mothers health. I have my own views on that subject and I did not express them in any way at any time. You of course made an assumption and again we all know what that does.
You asked about compromise and that was one I suggested. I also put the disclaimer that it was not perfect to what the left or the right would want, but it would be a start.
That is the problem with people like you who want to argue; you can't see the forest for the trees and understand what the word compromise actually means.
I am also at a loss on how you have decided that Planned Parenthood receives no tax dollars for any abortion services considering their own report as I stated in the original letter states clearly that P.P.F.A. received a record $542 million dollars in taxpayer funding via government grants, contracts & Medicaid reimbursements for a total of 45% of their annual income. The P.P.F.A. report was not something either political party made up, it was the report they actually published and released to the public. They freely admit they received taxpayer money. Hence the reason for HR 217 to close the loophole that allows money to be used to pay for abortions.
Sometimes I think you just pull your thoughts from thin air and have no concept of the reality that smacks you right in the nose. Talking to you is like explaining something to a two year old at times because you just want to argue and have no real reasoning behind 99% of what you post.
The real issues that face the nation like out of control spending, unemployment rates, debt ceiling, etc. are being ignored by your pathetic party because they are hell bent on trying to take away guns (semi-automatic / assault rifles) when that is not the issue or a concern that needs to be addressed.
You want to look at the problems we face in America; you need look no further than the leadership of your own party!
January 25, 2013 at 5:07pm
Well now, if one agrees (as stated above) that they will allow abortions under certain conditions and yet also state that it is morally wrong, biblically wrong (also noted above) for such activity to take place, that seems to reveal some flaw in the convictions of that person about it being morally and biblically wrong to began with.
Note, Factcheck.org when queried, states no tax payer dollars going to Planned Parenthood for abortion purposes.
January 25, 2013 at 9:47pm
Well obviously factcheck didn't check with P.P.F.A. because they freely admit it despite your efforts to deny it and refute it. I think I will believe the people who run it vs. you or another obscure Internet reference you dug up out of the fantasy world you live in.
P.S. You have stated many times over your lack of morals or belief in a higher power so your judgement of me once again matters not in the least.
You couldn't find a moral if you were stuffed in a paper bag full of them.
January 26, 2013 at 5:37am
Planned Parenthood has a budget of over one billion dollars, only a portion of that comes from tax dollars and by law, those tax dollars cannot be used for abortion services.
Abortion funding comes from other sources rather than tax dollars and Planned Parenthood freely admits that. They also freely admit they receive tax dollars to provide healthcare services for millions of Americans who would not receive those services without the assistance of Planned Parenthood.
By law, no tax payer dollars can be used for abortions services provided by Planned Parenthood, regardless of what Fox News and ring wing sources claim, including those locally.
January 26, 2013 at 9:55am
I understand completely that by law no tax dollars can be spent on abortions. Unlike you who has the need to have something explained millions of times, I got that the very first time I read it years ago. Once again, the need for HR 217 is to close the loopholes that allow places like P.P.F.A. to circumvent the law. And once again, the services like cancer screening that P.P.F.A. provided dropped by 29% while abortions rose dramatically.
Say what you want, research all the obscure internet sights you want, follow me from post to post since you have no other life, but the reality is 92% of the services P.P.F.A. provided in 2011 / 2012 were abortion related and they are funded by TAXPAYER dollars.
You say "Planned Parenthood has a budget of over one billion dollars, only a portion of that comes from tax dollars" and once again, if you actually comprehended English you could read that the report they released shows that a total of 45% of their annual income is funded by TAXPAYER dollars.
You can say no tax dollars were used until doomsday, but it only goes to prove exactly what I have said about you many times over, under every pen name you write under and that is simply you want to argue and have no real or plausible facts to support your rants.
You are dismissed now.
January 26, 2013 at 2:44pm
We have this post saying that "92% of the services PPFA provided...were abortion related and funded by taxpayer dollars"
When Sen Kyl said that last week he was called an outright liar and his staff had to issue a retraction that his numbers were not meant to be "factual".
There are many sources from NYT, Chicago Tribune, Washington Post, NPR, FactCheck, Politico and others who state that abortions services account for only 3% of Planned Parenthood services and yet here in Woodbury we find the Republican Party chairman parroting Kyl with his over 90% figure also.
And then saying these services are funded by tax dollars while all the time knowing that is illegal for Planned Parenthood to do so and all facts confirm that they do not use tax dollars to fund abortion services.
Too much Fox News or Black or Kyl or Blackburn or ????
January 26, 2013 at 3:01pm
Right here in Woodbury, TN on this website we have a man who lives in Murfreesboro writing posts under different pen names every week because he is too ashamed to write under his own name parroting obscure internet references no one but him can find or cares about
My quotes came directly from the latest annual report submitted by P.P.F.A. I do not watch Fox News, I do not listen to talk radio and I certainly do not listen, watch or read any of the idiotic, liberal manure you subscribe to in any way.
I do not know who Sen. Kyl you reference is. I’ve never heard of him. I don't care about him, his so called references you quote, anyone who laughed at him or about you for that matter.
By their own admission P.P.F.A. uses taxpayer money and the money spent by them on abortions and abortion related issues has increased dramatically while other services provided have decreased dramatically.
Once again, you have no facts to substantiate your claims and once again as I told you earlier you are dismissed.
January 27, 2013 at 6:09am
Couple of quotes on limiting one's exposure to both sides of an issue as some are wont to do and I will, indeed, dismiss myself.
"Nothing is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"
"Beware the man with a single book"
"Being ignorant is not so much be shame, as being unwilling to learn"
"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action"
January 27, 2013 at 7:20am
I am so proud you were able to search and find direct quotes that describe you so perfectly.
I am proud you have been able to see yourself for who and what you truly are.
The first step to solving any problem is to first admit you have one. Congratulations on finally admitting it.
I will leave you with one as well!
"You can argue something wrong all day, but you can never argue the truth!"