By: dsherron26 on 6/28/12
AMEN Rep. Black

By: MMW on 6/28/12
Thank you Chief Justice Roberts for your correct decision in siding with the four liberals.

Why deny healthcare to the poor or to those who have existing conditions that preclude an insurance company from covering them?

Why force hospitals/physicans to eat billions in cost when treating uninsured people and passing some of that cost on to those who have insurance

Time to reign in the costs of healthcare by forcing all to be taxed for such care--something the government, under the Constitution, has the power to do!

A much appreciated thanks to the five Justices who had the wisdom to see that mandate was constitutional.

PS, where are the locals who maintained a few years back that it wasn't? Little Brown Jug still open?

By: on 6/28/12 [Delete]
Yes, thank you Chief Justice Roberts for siding with the other four liberal idiots.

You have now just increased the chances of Mitt Romney being elected in November to replace the socialist President we currently have.

What a way to unite the country when 85% of the U.S. population is against a 1000 page law that will add gazillions to our national debt and do nothing except force the people who work to pay for the freeloaders and the liberals who think the government should provide for them because they are entitled!

HUGE gains for the Republicans coming in November in the House, the Senate and the Presidency.

And MMW if you actually read it, he did not say the mandate was constitutional, he said it was a tax and that was why he ruled in favor of it.

By: dsherron26 on 6/28/12
The Land of Opportunity has become the Land of Entitlement. Now it's time to see the deficit and debt skyrocket and healthcare costs skyrocket while our RIGHT to choose what services we purchase has been taken away by a SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST president. Ask Canada how state run healthcare works? What happened to the USSR in which the state gave/dictated to its citizens what they would get. We can only hope that Romney beats out the Democrat *cough* Communist party president.

By: ftenpenny on 6/28/12
To destroy a nation.Vote Democrat.

By: MMW on 6/29/12
The joy over increasing the Romney chance of being elected was not present in those who denounced Roberts for siding with the liberals. Bachman and her ilk found much displeasure in his vote.

A mandate in the form of a tax passed by Congress was found to be constitutional by the Court. You can slice and dice it anyway you want but the Court upheld Obamacare as a constitutional act of Congress.

One can readily ascertain the kindness and generous threads of Republican Christianity running through the commments that are being made.

Where is the compassion for those who cannot obtain insurance because of pre-existing conditions, where is the compassion for those who are either kicked off rolls of the insurance companies because of costs incurred or faced monumental increases to continue their coverage.

One of the obligations of a Christian is to care for those in need, those who are ill and those who lack the means to enjoy life as it should be enjoyed.

There seems to be little compassion for these people in the comments. Some of these comments are much the same as when Social Security was passed and Medicare came into play. And is Tail-gunner Joe out there somewhere(social/communist)?

If this nation can engage in two wars (unfunded) and passed Part D (unfunded) and cut taxes under a Republican president leading to a massive shortfall in balancing the budget, then we can do something for those who need healthcare even if a mandated tax may be required to do so.

Thank you again Chief Justice Roberts for your vote!

By: on 6/29/12 [Delete]
I will work on that compassion thing right after I figure out how I am going to come up with an extra $400 per month for health insurance when I am barely scratching by as it is.

By: dsherron26 on 6/29/12
Amen Kevin. Well if you bankrupt the nation how hard is it going to get insurance. I speak from experience as one who had been uninsured for close to 5 years. I do agree that it is tough but this is not the way to go about fixing the problem. What is the solution? I don't know, but this is NOT it. The government out stepped its bounds court ruling or not. Talking about shortfalls wait until the cost of Obama's CommunistCare really starts taking its toll.

By: on 6/29/12 [Delete]
Well MMW your President and party refused to call it a tax and instead called it a MANDATE, but now we have the SCOTUS who has determined it is a tax and not a MANDATE, so I will use their interpretation of the law and disregard your views as I usually do. Personally I am proud they determined it is a tax because it now takes less trouble to repeal it.

No Republican or Democrat who voted against the Health Care Law did not want to see those who are incapable of taking care of themselves to not have health care. They all wanted that, but they did not want the current law as it is written. Especially a mandate or a tax depending on who describes it. So much more could have been done had it not been for the liberal agenda of the Democratic Party.

You and so many other liberals believe in the idea that we the people cannot take care of ourselves and it is the government's responsibility to do it for us. I think that goes against the very idea of what the Founding Fathers intended our country to be. Even they knew then that less government is the best government.

But, there is a movement across this nation by you guys to leave the legacy that abortion is acceptable, but capital punishment of a convicted murderer is cruel and inhumane. Or marriage is acceptable between two men or two women despite that being contrary to the Bible and the teachings of the true and living GOD. You took GOD out of schools, off the money, tried to get it out of the Pledge of Allegiance and now socialized health care is just another notch in the belt you liberals wear. You and every other liberal are the same. You all have the same mind frame and same thought process. You invoke Christianity when it is convenient and disregard it when you don't like it. You should really be proud of the legacy you will leave for the next generation. You have taught them to be immoral, irresponsible, arrogant, untrustworthy, dependent and illiterate. You have so much to be proud of.

I believe a man or woman should work if they are capable of doing so. I believe that America offers them the ability to achieve whatever dream they inspire to dream and with hard work and dedication they can get it. I believe when they contribute to society they deserve the rewards society has to offer them.

You guys believe that you are entitled to everything without doing anything to deserve it which I find offensive to all of those men and women throughout the history of America who have fought and died defending our right to the American dream. For you it is not the American dream, it is the American scheme.

Every liberal is the same. You will walk into the Redwood Forrest, cut down a tree and stand on the stump and preach about how you want what is best for the environment and proclaim we should all be proud you just provided us with some firewood.

I will remind you that Hitler gave his people socialized medicine as well. Pretty soon the elderly, those with deformities, mentally challenged, etc. were all deemed to be unnecessary. Then came the death camps.

You keep sticking your hand out to the government and pretty soon they will find a way to chop it off.

By: Bud on 6/29/12
Political divide has become vulgar, arrogant, repulsive and is an exhausting burden and barrier to any social advancement for our nation.

Many of us non yellow dogs have about had all we can take.

By: dsherron26 on 6/29/12
Exactly Corey, couldn't have said it better myself. Government should not be the one taking care of citizens, government's function is to maintain order and uphold justice, NOTHING else. We live in a great nation that was built on OPPORTUNITY not ENTITLEMENT. It was meant from the word go that the citizens of this great country would have the opportunity to do whatever they want (pursuit of happiness), but it was NEVER said that it should be given without merit.

So many today live with the mindset that the government is responsible for taking care of it's citizens while they do nothing. Now I understand that there are those who legitimately can't take care of themselves, that is another issue as they are the ones who truly need help. Otherwise there is SOMETHING that somebody can do. Yes, jobs are scarce, but this isn't the first rodeo that the U.S.A has had with a Depression. Remember back in the 1930's, so many of our relatives (grandmothers, great-grandmothers, etc.) can remember when they had nothing. Yet you will never hear of any of them say that they expected to be taken care of by the government. Most of them found WHATEVER job WHATEVER task they could find and they survived by whatever means they had.

Due to that struggle I believe it made them much stronger for that, to grow up knowing that what they had to eat, where they had to live, and living itself was EARNED not GIVEN. There is much more pride and glory to be had in something that we have worked and strived for rather than just being handed to us. The things that are gained by giving rarely mean as much as the things earned.

ObamaCare has thus may have at a high high cost GIVEN healthcare to the masses, but in the end it will TAKE all the pride away from those who have WORKED AND EARNED what they have.

"THE GOVERNMENT THAT GOVERNS THE BEST GOVERNS THE LEAST"

By: MMW on 6/29/12
Those who profess to be Christians and yet deny to the needy and the ill a healthcare program that will give them the medical assistance that they themselves have but are unwilling to share are much like the people Jesus talked about in his Good Samaritan parable.

They use such comments like "You have taught them to be immoral, irresponsible, arrogant, untrustworthy, dependent and illiterate. You have so much to be proud of." in an attempt to cover there own shortcomings and shift the focus on someone else.

As Bud said "Political divide has become vulgar, arrogant, repulsive and is an exhausting burden and barrier to any social advancement for our nation."

And that is what Corey does when addressing someone who feels compassion for those who need a helping hand and wants the government to do something more to help people. His first step is to demean that person.

Were you not Corey on that list that went back to the church, seems like I read your name there when someone sent me that week's bulletin.

The very essence of Christianity lies in the need to care for those who are less fortunate than others and do not have the means to do so themselves.

Kevin, I pay over 400 hundred a month now and bring in a lot less money than you do. The whole attempt to bring everyone into the system is a real effort to control costs and even bring down costs by getting millions more, many of them healthy like you. You might want give up smoking, if you already haven't. That will help pay for insurance and also prolong your life and improve the quality of it in your old age so if you elect not to get into the pool then our costs to take care of you with lung problems or heart problems won't be so great.

If you depend on God in schools and God on money then you are not much of a Christian. God needs to be in the home and in the Church and in your heart and His presence there has nothing to do with school, public buildings or money.

Wonder how those folks got along when He wasn't in the pledge? Same foolishness when the right wing fanatics added it in and what we see now.

By: on 6/29/12 [Delete]
Neither I nor anyone else denies that some people need to be helped. No one I know from any party is unwilling to help those in need. That is nothing but another lie you and your party spread in an attempt to deflect from the real issues and your desire to force those of us who actually work for a living to pay for those of you who don't.

I am not ashamed at all to say that I depend on GOD in every aspect of my life. At home, at church, on my drive to the store, at my children's school, while I am walking up the stairs and so many other places. It is by His grace that I walk and talk and breathe.

The idea that He does not belong in the schools and in every other place is EXACTLY why I say you and all of the other liberals have taught the next generation to be immoral, arrogant, untrustworthy, etc. You prove my opinion every single time you write that He should not be in our lives. Without Him you have nothing, are nothing and never will be anything.

No I was not in any bulletin that I know of and I receive one every week. There are however two of us so maybe you saw his name. I doubt very seriously you were concerned about me at all, so save your sarcasm.

As a self-proclaimed atheist you really should not be preaching about Christianity at all. The very idea of you telling others what the "very essence of Christianity is" is an oxymoron to say the least. Especially considering your extreme liberal views on marriage, abortion, GOD, etc.

All of this between you and I over the last few years when you wrote under the pen name of dailyreader and now MMW has been the same old sad song and dance.

You are a liberal. I am a conservative. You are an atheist, I am a Christian. You are left and I am right. None of it means anything in the grand scheme of life except that people like you will always believe in free handouts because you believe you are entitled to a government who provides you with everything. People like me will always believe in earning what you work for, providing for your family on your own and a government that should shut up until I ask for help.

Both of us will continue to believe the way we do and write the things we write, except that I will do it proudly and without shame and not hide behind a pen name because I don't have the guts to sign my own name.

By: on 6/29/12 [Delete]
MMW, in addition to being highly improper, it is rude for either you or the government to advise me as to how I should live my life, or what I should spend my money on. I have never been a medical burden to either the government or the health care system.

What's next, a mandated tax for funeral insurance because I will one day die?

For now I will just consider myself fortunate that I am 56 and not 26. If this mandated tax had been in effect since then, I would have paid tens of thousands of dollars for something for 30 years that I never used.

By: dsherron26 on 6/29/12
MMW if you would like to help the ill and less fortunate then YOU pay for their care, YOU pay for the cost. It is not for you or the government to determine what everybody should or should not pay for that is our right of choice. Or else maybe we should just start calling our political system by another name, Communist. We are (or at least used to be) the land of the free, not the land the land of entitlement. As Corey hinted, it is NOT right in any sense for the ones who actually work for what they have to pay for those who won't. Without God we are all nothing, well said Corey.

By: MMW on 6/30/12
Rude though it may be Kevin, there is some substance to advocating a healthy lifestyle for all. Much like the Mayor of New York promoting a lesser amount of cola to be vended or the banning of smoking in public buildings.

If we can get young people to eat healthier foods in schools, forego smoking when they grow up, control the amount of alcohol and drugs used, the entire country will benefit from that lifestyle change.

The argument that you have saved thousands for something never used doesn't even make sense. Many of us could use the same argument about car insurance, property insurance and even life insurance (since I have not died yet.)

dsherron26, just remember what Jesus told every rich man that approached him with a question about salvation. Give up all those riches and help the poor and the needy if you are to follow me. And remember it is not always those who need help that "won't" there are millions who need help that "can't". Where would Jesus be in your communist/socialist world? What about those followers who gathered their belongings all together to help out others?

And from day one of this nation's existence our government has been providing for the general welfare of its people.

Why not healthcare for all?

By: on 6/30/12 [Delete]
MMW, it is not your role, nor that of the government, to "control" what people do. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are assigned to the individual in the Declaration of Independence as a right, not as a gift from the government.

I have car insurance because I drive. I can live without having health insurance.

It should now be clear to anyone who pays attention that ObamaCare creates a greater hardship on those who it should help, the poor and the middle class. Their health care expenses will increase. Their access to health care will decrease. The quality and quantity of available health care will decrease. It's a ill-conceived and poorly implemented law and hopefully will be repealed and replaced with one that is better thought out within the next year.

"Why not healthcare for all?"

There is already healthcare available to all. To imply otherwise is being untruthful. For those who can not afford insurance or a private physician or facility, there are a number of health departments, free clinics and clinics which offer services on a sliding fee scale. There is Medicaid and Medicare available to the indigent.

By: Bud on 6/30/12
KH dont forget emergency rooms that deny no one and write off millions of bad debts. This is our most costly form of health care and were most of our poor go many times for minor issues. Vandy last year broke a record of well over a billion in charity care ($3000.00 per minute or over 4 million a day).

I dont think obamacare in it present form is the answer but i also know our current system has major flaws and needs change so, shoot anyway one of us needs relief.

As a swing voter two points: first i dont believe i have a real good choice in what either of the two parties has to offered, second the greater the bickering and extreme hostility with NO middle ground the more i dislike both.

By: MMW on 6/30/12
"No I was not in any bulletin that I know of and I receive one every week."

Well what you said about assuming, seems to bear fruit.

When my friend gave me that week's bulletin, I just assumed the Davenport named was the local political activist that posts comments on the Courier website.

But since you say your name never appeared in the bulletin and you get one every week, the Davenport that went down front with dozens of others that Sunday must have been another man-- my assumption has once again been in error.

By: MMW on 6/30/12
Kevin, this AM's paper had an article where is was noted that the 8,000 members of a small business association praised the Courts decision. "We consider it a huge victory for small businesses struggling with healthcare costs" and the article also noted that businesses smaller than 25 can take a tax credit which might encourage them to offer insurance to their employees. Perhaps your permium might be considerable less if your employee took advantage (if he does not already do so) of those tax credits.

As Bud alluded to, no program in the start up phase is exactly what is needed but this is a start in the right direction.

While there are some who feel that people with pre-existing conditions should remain uninsured and companies should be able to kick anyone off its rolls when their costs are what the company feel excessive and hospitals, by continuing to treat walkins without insurance, should eat billions and even pass some of that cost on to us when we enter that system, I feel something should be done to get those people into the system even if the rest of us bear and share that burden with our taxes.

But then again I feel much the same about Medicare, Medicaid and a lot of other government programs.

And whether one likes it or not, our government controls our actions even to the point of committing young men and women into wars. Seems to me that is an important "role" of our government. From safe guarding our health to being asked to die to perserve our way of life.

By: on 6/30/12 [Delete]
Bud, I once worked in an ER. At least 90 percent of the people who came there were non-emergency. Laws and regulations can be changed to triage those patients to another provider.

MMW, I'm sure you can find another small business association opposed to the Court's decision, plus I doubt that all 8,000 members were interviewed.

People who are "committed" to wars volunteer for that assignment. No one I know has of has volunteered to pay the ObamaCare tax.

By: on 6/30/12 [Delete]
You know MMW I am getting kind of creeped out with your stalking. Seriously, are you that obsessed with who I am and what I am doing that you are trolling church bulletins to see if you can find my name?

I am not sure what health care or anything else we have discussed has anything to do with a church bulletin, so again I will say that is really creepy and strange even for you. Twiddle your thumbs or something but lay off the stalking.

Perhaps if you were man enough or not so ashamed of being a fanatical liberal you would be willing to tell everyone your real name and we could all look for you in bulletins around town. I seriously doubt that will happen. You had no courage using dailyreader or MMW.

Also, since you want to quote scripture so much lately, try reading 2 Thessalonians 3:10. It not only applies to you, it also applies to all the other freeloaders in the world who have their hand stuck out expecting others to give them something for nothing.

By: MMW on 6/30/12
"People who are "committed" to wars volunteer for that assignment."

Kevin, belaboring the point, but I might point out that a great many that died in WWII, Viet Nam and Korea were not volunteers but drafted or committed by our government to fight and die perserving our freedoms.

I was one or your "committed" volunteers. You know, one of those who received a letter requesting I "volunteer".

I also don't volunteer to pay any tax but do it willing when it is required by our government.

Corey, by golly if I don't believe I have picked up more of the beliefs that Jesus espoused about helping people than many of those who stand on the street corner and say "I am a Christian."

By: on 6/30/12 [Delete]
"I also don't volunteer to pay any tax but do it willing when it is required by our government."

That's why there are times when a change in government is needed, such as in 1776.

By: on 6/30/12 [Delete]
The change in the government is needed in 2012 as well.

MMW don't flatter yourself. You are in no way like Jesus except that you are a man (I assume that, but can't say that for 100% certainty).

Just because you say you think those in need deserve health care does not make you more Christ like. No one but you has suggested the people who are against the health care law are also against those in need. That is just more liberal garbage spread by you and the other Democrats because you don't want people to realize how bad the law actually sucked.

To the contrary if you would remove that liberal bone between your eyes you would see that every single person has stated the exact opposite.

For the 50th time we are against the GOVERNMENT telling us that we are required to pay for several million people who can work, but won't work and are sitting on their butt's drawing a government check and living off of our backs. I am not sure what part of that you can't, won't or don't understand.

I will ask you straight out.

Do you deny being a 100% liberal Democrat?
Do you deny being an atheist?
Do you deny believing the government should provide the citizens of this country who can, but won't work every single need they may have using tax dollars from those who work?
Do you deny writing to the Cannon Courier website using another pen name "dailyreader"?

You have the floor to deny or confirm all four questions.

By: MMW on 7/2/12
I have been remiss and want to apologize to all my Republican friends for failing to recognize the outstanding contribution of Mitt Romney, their august and esteemed leader, who gave us a textbook example of mandated healthcare that covers 99% of the people in that state.

Along with a thank you for the non-partisan vote of Chief Justice Roberts, let us give a great big THANK YOU to MITT!

Corey--church bulletin--in a diverse home with a number of religious interests I see many bulletins and you know what they say about fools names.

Your "I double dare you" questions?

You recall what is said about matching wits with the unarmed and the caution about arguing with fools who bring you down to their level where they have much more experience.

I'll pass. Proverbs 26: 4 thru 14

By: on 7/2/12 [Delete]
MMW as I have told you numerous times before your opinion of me means absolutely nothing to me at all.

I simply refute your lies, your innuendos, and your liberal mantra simply because it is fun to destroy your lies publically while you hide behind a fictitious pen name because you are too scared to be a man and say what you think while using your own name.

If calling me a fool makes you feel better then so be it. I could care less. It just shows how big of a hypocrite you really are when you say I want to demean people and then you call me a "fool".

Also, I love it when an atheist quotes scripture. I am reminded that even the Devil quoted scripture to Jesus Himself. I see not much has changed in 2000 years.

By: dsherron26 on 7/2/12
There is nothing new under the sun. It is hypocritical, when he can't justify this terribly flawed and UNCONSTITUTIONAL communist healthcare law, he turns what was a civil discussion into a mud slinging pit, and thus has made it personal. That is a victory on the side of conservatism. Personal attacks only destroy your core argument.